#218 – Jaron Lanier: Virtual Reality, Social Media & the Future of Humans and AI
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
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(00:00) – Introduction<br />
(08:04) – What is reality?<br />
(12:17) – Turing machines<br />
(13:35) – Simulating our universe<br />
(19:49) – Video games and other immersive experiences<br />
(23:37) – Death and consciousness<br />
(32:08) – Designing human-centric AI<br />
(33:42) – Empathy with robots<br />
(37:33) – Social media incentives<br />
(49:53) – Data dignity<br />
(57:26) – Jack Dorsey and Twitter<br />
(1:09:10) – Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies<br />
(1:13:51) – Government overreach and freedom<br />
(1:24:06) – GitHub and TikTok<br />
(1:26:16) – The Autodidactic Universe<br />
(1:31:07) – Humans and the mystery of music<br />
(1:37:17) – Defining moments<br />
(1:48:03) – Mortality<br />
(1:49:56) – The meaning of life</p>